With Michael30-Min Call30 min

Thirty minutes
with Michael.

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Denver Zen Den consultation room

For the conversation that needs more than 15 minutes.

Founder time, by appointment.

This calendar is to schedule a 30-minute call with Michael Pottern. Most people don't need this: the standard 15-minute discovery call handles 80% of scoping. This one's for the rest.

Use this call when your situation is genuinely complex: a multi-session journey, an unusual integration question, a business collaboration, or a clinical/practitioner scenario where you need to talk directly with the person who built this. Otherwise, the free discovery call is the right place to start.

Some conversations need the person who designed the system.

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Duration
30 minutes
Price
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Good fits for this call.

Each session is customized to the client. This is the outline.

Probably not for you if…

Less ideal if: this is the wrong call for most people. Try the free discovery call first; if it surfaces something that needs more time, we'll move to this one together.

Before you book.

How is this different from the free discovery call?

The 15-minute discovery call is for picking a session. This 30-minute call is for situations that don't fit that mold: partnership inquiries, multi-session journey design, practitioner collaboration, or complex personal situations. Most people don't need this call; if you're not sure, start with the free one.

What are the benefits?

Direct access to the founder, scoping for complex or non-standard situations, faster resolution of edge cases, and clarity on whether the Zen Den is the right container at all.

How do I prepare?

Set an intention through light journaling. Avoid heavy meals 60 to 90 minutes prior. Arrive hydrated and reasonably well-rested.

How safe is this?

Informational only, no medical or psychiatric advice given.

Other call options.

When less time is plenty:

Half an hour with Michael.

Only book this if the discovery call can't get to the bottom of what you're working on.

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